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Apr 27, 2012
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Great postings I have never seen so many great postings as to day. The quality of the postings are very high in this days, getting a POD is not easy at all. My own improvement, and my HDR skills comes from those who have voted and given coment, not only on my post, but all postings.A big thank you to all. |
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Apr 8, 2012
rrr
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... Randall is quite correct. All images posted should be annonymous for twenty four hours, this would stop two things that happen regularly. The first is that people vote down other images regardless of how good they are to promote their own, and secondly it would stop this ridiculous idea of you voted for me so I will vote for you scenario which is all too apparent on this site. Having too vote on images that you have no idea who has posted would make the system at a stroke much more fair and must be easy too do, we would then get real critiques. |
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Apr 4, 2012
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... @spiritofweston,there is so many amazingly good images on this site,and there is some honest voters to.I simply love photo and HDR,soo my hope is that we all on this site thake time to vote seriusly and honest. |
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Apr 4, 2012
spiritofweston
19 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... @bjosted. All very good points — the question is will the voters actually start providing a honest, serious and useful critique of the photo’s posted here. I seriously doubt it since this site is really about feeling good an not improving one’s craft or skill. The lack of critique is why I don’t recommend this website to my students. |
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Apr 4, 2012
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... I try my very best to be objectiv when I make my votes.The person who have postet the image dont affect my vote at all.A good post deserves a good vote. But I am a bit confused about some votes on images with obvius errors gets a 9/10. I also think that a single RAW shot have to bee incredible good to get a 10. Single RAW shot,is NOT HDR, and can never bee. Some of the singles are very good photos ,but thats all. You cant invent somthing from nothing.But as it is said many times,if I give someone a 7/8 there is a lot of noise gooing on imediatly,I can feel the atmosphere at once. And that is a pity,because, the posters gets nothing back to improve their photograph skills,and that is what its all about, or what…………. |
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Apr 3, 2012
spiritofweston
19 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... While, this site professes to be “The reference website for HDR photography” the truth is that is really an nothing more than online equivalent of a local photography club where you go to praise each other’s work (regardless of quality or execution of the craft) and then go have beer. Let’s face it, those who post to this site don’t seek improvement – they only seek to have their ego stroked and fuel their Walter Mitty fantasies that they are great photographers. To give something other than a 9 or 10 and offer honest critique is sacrilege and you will soon be ignored or most likely attacked for your comments. Look at the number of posts to this web site in the forums — only 1,115 posts? This is an indication that dialogue and thus improvement is not important here. Also, how is the PoD chosen? There is nothing listed anywhere on this site about the metrics or criteria on how it’s chosen. My suspicion is that Carlo simply picks the one he likes best and awards the PoD. Regardless of how it’s chosen some transparency would be beneficial here. |
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Apr 3, 2012
terrace_dr
2 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... The scoring on this site is ridiculous! I agree with Randal.Lorh and what he suggested. |
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Mar 4, 2012
inkslinger
7 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... Firstly I would like to say that I am not as experienced as most members on HDR techniques…..BUT….I have noticed every day that votes on most photos’ are getting 8, 9, & 10’s when they are not basically correct. Now we all make mistakes & I have viewed several images on this site that at 1st viewing, I think that’s really nice = 9/10. I now look several times during the course of several hrs to assess/review my vote (on Paper). If I find several photo’s that I feel are POD then I will revisit those alone…. & decide which gets my vote…. |
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Feb 27, 2012
rrr
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... All images should be anonymous until the day after they are posted,as Randall suggests. The scoring system should also be 1 to 20 this gives more lee way with the awarding of a score for each image. Personally posting on this site gives me the reason to go out and take images which I havent done for several years, having at first lost interest when film cameras started to be phased out to be replaced with digital, (which by the way I still think is an inferior format compared to film for black and white images, though I know this will offend and perhaps cause howls of indignation:) Nevertheless I am enjoying playing with my new toy and software, and only just really gettiing used to it and also enjoy the opinions and images of others more expert than myself who frequent this site, but something should be done. Perhaps no voting at all, just comments, except for the image which you think should be photo of the day and which could be register4ed by simply placing a tick in a box at the side of an image, the picture with the most ticks wins for that day, not perfect, but just an idea. This system would also stop revenge voting, and then people could get down to giving advice about where a picture is going wrong rather than ripping it to pieces. |
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Feb 27, 2012
spiritofweston
19 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No easy 10 ratings from me I think nearly everyone who visits this site can see that there is “Gentlemen’s” agreement not to rate low or honestly. I would argue that the lack of serious critique does more damage than good and that few will work to improve their craft because of it. As you may have noticed that when an honest critique is given, it is often met with some form of reprisal by others; this is one of the reasons why I don’t recommend this site to my students. |
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Feb 27, 2012
timberwolf
1 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No easy 10 ratings from me Totally agree I joined the site to get some honest feedback and to offer my opinions on others work if i feel the image isnt a 10 then il rate it at what i feel it is! |
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Feb 16, 2012
pandarino
7 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... I am in agreement with what is written by Randall and Paul Mack, the mathematical formula used is not quite so perfect. I very much support the secret ballot because the vote is often not a free vote to be expressed. Often votes with a high mark to avoid criticism and make a vow exchange, and this is not correct. I hope Charles reads this forum and can make some corrections possible. thanks |
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Feb 9, 2012
spiritofweston
19 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... This has been discussed here on several different occasions always with the same outcomes. The agreement that the ratings are inflated but continues none the less. This is one of the reasons why I don’t recommend this website to my students. |
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Feb 7, 2012
paul_mack
1 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... I am in total agreement on this subject.I have noticed it is all about politics and not high scores,well that is what seems to be going on.My last effort weighed in at 14 perfect scores and I never got to smell the roses.Well win some lose some…I never joined this sight to get POD and really just enjoy sharing knowledge and artwork :-) |
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Feb 6, 2012
Randall.Lohr
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... I couldn’t agree more. there has to be a better way to weigh the balance of the scores. clearly someone who gets ten perfect tens should win over someone who has 5 tens and 7 nines… the resulting scores should weigh the judgement more than the total number of votes. Clearly someone who is just starting out has almost no chance of winning with an excellent pic over someone who has developed the relationships, followers and political acumen to know who to give higher scores to or to ignore great pics just to keep someone from winning. I think Photos should be posted anonymously to avoid the political aspects interfering with the voting process. with no names to consider, all pics are weighted on their merits only, and the creator is named only after the day is completed. |
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Feb 6, 2012
guydoingmusic
1 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No offense, but... This voting system is by far skewed. I don’t care about my pictures winning POD or what not, but I don’t even see the point in your voting system. For instance: Yesterdays voting included a pic with an average score of 9.5 and 11 votes. This guy’s pic had at least six Perfect 10 ratings. He lost to another pic with only one Perfect 10 vote because he had a total of thirteen votes. Twelve of which were a 9 rating bringing the average for that photo to 9.1. You seriously need to reconsider your flawed voting system to make it fair for others who want a chance to get the POD. Again… I personally do not care about winning(or not). So please don’t take this as me being a “whiny baby” or “sore loser”. I’ve just never seen a system where people score higher and lose. |
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Jan 18, 2012
inkslinger
7 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No easy 10 ratings from me I agree completely, Some members throw their Dummy out of the pram & start getting personal if you say anything negative about a photo. I say what i think as you do rtorcato. Sending messages & writing personal comments on my photo’s. If they don’t like the opinion then stop posting……. |
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Jan 14, 2012
rtorcato
2 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No easy 10 ratings from me I mean everyone is scared to rate lower than 9. |
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Jan 14, 2012
rtorcato
2 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / No easy 10 ratings from me The image will have to be perfect in every way. Not just HDR processing. I’m gonna rate it as I see it. If the image is a 7 or lower I will rate it as such. Seems to be too many 10s getting thrown at friend’s posts on this site and too many people to rate lower than a 9. |
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Nov 4, 2011
carlo
138 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Fake account and ratings Hello everybody, All of us could create multiple accounts (fake accounts) to increment the rating of a picture but THIS IS NOT FAIR. I don’t like the idea to restrict ratings just for photographers with at least 1 picture in their portfolio. So I’m asking you to respect other users, to be honest and not fake your rating. Hope I can get your comprehension. |
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Sep 18, 2011
pezzetto13
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Non riesco a postare nuove foto. Changed name of the image and everything works. Tanks. |
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Sep 14, 2011
carlo
138 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Non riesco a postare nuove foto. Prova a salvare l’immagine con un programma diverso o cambia il nome del file. Try to save the image with a different image editor or try to change the image name. |
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Sep 13, 2011
pezzetto13
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Non riesco a postare nuove foto. Credo comunque di essere off topic |
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Sep 13, 2011
pezzetto13
3 posts
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Non riesco a postare nuove foto. Come da titolo, ottengo i seguenti errori: 2 errors prohibited this photo from being saved There were problems with the following fields: Image /tmp/Gargano 11126_HDR,20723,0.jpg is not recognized by the ‘identify’ command. Image /tmp/Gargano 11126_HDR,20723,0.jpg is not recognized by the ‘identify’ command.Cosa sono??? |
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Jul 21, 2011
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Topic: Charts and Awards / Top rated formula Da qualche tempo posto le mie foto sul sito e ho notato una cosa: c’è una sorta di “voto di cortesia e ricambio” nel senso che se tu voti la mia foto allora io contraccambio e voterò la tua. |